Michelle Obama appears set to spill details of her relationship with husband Barack on Kylie Kelce’s podcast this week. In a preview for the episode, which drops Thursday, the former first lady revealed that bedtime can be a contentious time for the couple.

Michelle shared an example of Barack typically deciding to run to the bathroom “when it’s time to leave.” She quipped, “I was like, ‘Dude, a 3 o’clock departure means you’ve done all that,’ you know, it’s like, don’t start looking for your glasses at the 3 o’clock departure."